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		<title>Boom Boom Boom, Another one bites the dust yeah! (IBM to buy SPSS)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Gibson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So IBM is buying SPSS to give it analytics capability and to allow it to better compete with Oracle and Microsoft. Although I have never thought of Oracle or SAP providing true Analtytical capability, so I would say this gives IBM a one up. Although Although, Oracle brought Thinking Machines ages ago which had a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So <a href="http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/27936.wss" target="_blank">IBM is buying SPSS</a> to give it analytics capability and to allow it to better compete with Oracle and Microsoft.</p>
<p>Although I have never thought of Oracle or SAP providing true Analtytical capability, so I would say this gives IBM a one up.</p>
<p>Although Although, Oracle brought Thinking Machines ages ago which had a credible Data Mining capability/tool but then swallowed them up and delivered nothing that customers really used (well not in NZ anyway)</p>
<p>So will IBM leverage SPSS to provide a compelling message or lose it in its already massive product stack?</p>
<p>Also SAP/BO and SPSS were already partnering and playing nicely, so is this a first foray into the rumoured IBM buyout of SAP?</p>
<p>And as always where does this leave SAS, HP and Teradata?</p>
<p>So many questions  and only time well tell I suppose.</p>
<p>But one thing that is a fact is the big boys are getting bigger, and there are fewer companies out on their own.</p>
<p>I am trying to remember the days of Mainframe Accounting Systems (McCormack &amp; Dodge, CA Mastermind etc) and see if there is a parallel, but that was more death by new entrant (SAP, Peoplesoft, Oracle Apps etc)</p>
<p>So can you remember a time where massive vendor consolidation happened and the companies left out survived, let me know if you can.</p>
<p>Ps, I am undecided if I will add Sybase to my SAS/HP/Teradata mix as I cant see how they can survive in the BI market (Sybase IQ etc) but then they still have a credible Relational Database.</p>
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		<title>So who&#8217;s left?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Gibson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I posted earlier that given the current convergence what were the chance SAS would merge and with who. Interesting post about the Microstratgy conference over at Cindi Howson&#8217;s BIScorecard blog What took my interest was these comments: &#8220;Another interesting take away from the conference in aftermath of recent consolidation was MicroStrategy’s dance partners. CTOs from [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <a href="http://blog.sasinct.com/2007/12/12/vendor-convergence-and-sas/">posted earlier </a>that given the current convergence what were the chance SAS would merge and with who.</p>
<p>Interesting post about the Microstratgy conference over at <span face="Times New Roman"><a href="http://biscorecard.typepad.com/biscorecard/2008/01/microstrategy-m.html">Cindi Howson&#8217;s BIScorecard blog</a></span></p>
<p>What took my interest was these comments:</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman"><font color="#999999">&#8220;Another interesting take away from the conference in aftermath of recent consolidation was MicroStrategy’s dance partners. CTOs from Informatica (the market leader in ETL) and Teradata (</font></span><a href="http://www.informationweek.com/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=A20FMZR2TVZHMQSNDLPCKH0CJUNN2JVN?articleID=202300073&amp;queryText=teradata"><span face="Times New Roman"><font color="#999999">a market leading database for data warehousing</font></span></a><span face="Times New Roman"><font color="#999999">), and MicroStrategy united to discuss pervasive BI. These BI/datawarehouse independents all have a commonality in that they:</font></span></p>
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<li style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman"><font color="#999999">focus exclusively on only a portion of the BI market</font></span></li>
<li style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman"><font color="#999999">don’t compete with one another</font></span></li>
<li style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman"><font color="#999999">greatly complement each other&#8221;</font></span></li>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman"> Convergence in the past has tended to a two company dance (although Oracle often waits for one vendor to swallow a few others before swallowing them &#8211; aka JD Edwards and Peoplesoft).</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman">So whats the chance that companies like Teradata, Informatica, Microstrategy would agree to merge all at once, and if they did that would they need SAS to round out the offering?  I don&#8217;t think they would, SAS just has to many competing products for each to them, but adding SPSS to their mix would make sense.</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman">So that would create the following powerhouses:</span></p>
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<li>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman">IBM</span></p>
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<li>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman">Oracle</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman">Microsoft</span></p>
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<li>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman">SAP</span></p>
</li>
<li><span face="Times New Roman">The Consortium</span></li>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman">and that would leave SAS really out on a limb, making the HP/SAS merger far more likely.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman"></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman">(it would also provide an interesting grouping of vendores depending on how you look at their product offering, but I will post about that later)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman"></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman">Time will tell.</span></p>
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